Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/25/1997 09:06 AM Senate HES

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                  SB 152 CERTIFIED NURSE AIDES                                
                                                                              
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  introduced  CSSB 152(L&C)  as the final order of            
 business before the committee.                                                
                                                                               
  ANNETTE KRIETZER , staff to Senator Leman, said that the legislation         
 is introduced at the request of the Alaska Nurses Association.  Ms.           
 Krietzer reviewed the sectional analysis included in the packet.              
 She noted that the sectional analysis for Section 2 had a mistake             
 the statute referenced, AS 08.68.33(c), should actually be AS                 
 08.68.333(c).  In Section 5 Sec. 08.68.333(b), Ms. Krietzer pointed           
 out that the revocation of a nurse aide's certification can occur             
 if the board finds "abuse, neglect, or misappropriation of property           
 in connection with employment as a nurse aide"; the "in connection            
 with employment as a nurse aide" was added to be specific.                    
 Therefore, a CNA can be placed on the registry one of two ways.  A            
 CNA can be placed on the registry due to "abuse, neglect, or                  
 misappropriation of property in connection with employment" which             
 is governed by the Administrative Procedure Act (APA).  However               
 under subsection (c), upon a notice of finding from DHSS, a CNA can           
 be placed on the registry under AS 47.05.055 which is not subject             
 to APA.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Ms. Krietzer expressed concern with Section 10 and directed the               
 committee to page 6, lines 20-21.  If DHSS has reason to believe a            
 CNA in a facility licensed by DHSS has committed abuse, neglect, or           
 misappropriation of property, DHSS investigates to determine                  
 whether a finding should be made.  As the legislation is currently            
 written, these proceedings are exempt from APA.  Ms. Krietzer                 
 directed the committee to page 3, lines 28-31 which states that the           
 board can revoke a nurse aide's certification without a hearing and           
 enter the finding in the registry and notify the nurse aide of the            
 actions taken by the department.  The department does not have a              
 procedure in place.   In conversations with DHSS, the department              
 indicated that it will probably follow APA, but would look for an             
 alternate procedure.  This is of concern and the committee may want           
 to contemplate whether these proceedings should be exempt from APA.           
 Ms. Krietzer noted that Sections 14-16 are conforming amendments              
 that add this agency investigation into statutes where necessary to           
 comply with federal law.                                                      
                                                                               
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  SENATOR LEMAN  understood that those sections addressing the                 
 exemption from APA were suggested by DHSS during the department's             
 assistance in drafting.  Senator Leman requested that DHSS inform             
 the committee as to why those suggestions were made.                          
                                                                               
  TERESA LYONS , registered nurse, supported SB 152.  Ms. Lyons                
 informed the committee that she has worked as a registered nurse              
 throughout Alaska and the nation and has worked with many certified           
 nursing assistants and aides.  Of those CNAs, some did prey upon              
 the vulnerable populations being served.  Ms. Lyons pointed out               
 that the lack of public oversight for CNAs in home care agencies              
 and hospitals leaves the policing to the employer.  Unfortunately             
 because of the structure, people move from agency to agency or                
 hospital to hospital and the abuse continues.                                 
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS  asked if some specific event spurred this legislation         
 because this has been discussed for a number of years.   ANNETTE              
 KRIETZER  noted that there have been some changes in federal law              
 requiring that each state establish procedures to deal with the               
 revocation of certificates of CNAs.                                           
                                                                               
  SENATOR ELLIS  asked if there were any problems through the board            
 that could not be dealt with through the existing statute.   ANNETTE          
 KRIETZER  understood that the current program does not have any               
 statutory authority in existing statute to deal with what the board           
 is required to under federal law.   SENATOR ELLIS  asked if there             
 have been any problems.   ANNETTE KRIETZER  said that currently, CNAs         
 are issued certificates not licenses.  Ms. Krietzer understood that           
 there have been some problems, but the board does not have the                
 ability to deal with them.                                                    
                                                                               
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  GAIL MCGUILL , President of the Alaska Nurses Association(ANA),              
 informed the committee that she is also a registered nurse, a                 
 licensed nursing home administrator and Director of quality                   
 management at Columbia Alaska Regional.  Ms. McGuill supported SB
 152.  For seven years, ANA has worked with the Alaska Board of                
 Nursing to achieve the public protection encompassed in SB 152.               
 In 1989, the Governor signed EO 115 which called for the Department           
 of Commerce to take responsibility for the training, certification,           
 and registration of nurse aides that is required by the federal               
 government.  The ANA believes that the statutory and regulatory               
 authority for nurse aides should rest with the Board of Nursing,              
 the state agency responsible for regulating nursing care in Alaska.           
 SB 152 will strengthen the board's ability to protect the public              
 and will allow the board to establish standards for certification             
 for defining competency for nurse aides.  SB 152 provides the board           
 with the ability to discipline nurse aides and revoke certification           
 when appropriate.  Although the board has had standards for                   
 education and competency testing for nurse aides since 1989, the              
 board has been unable to perform any disciplinary actions due to              
 its lack of statutory authority.  DHSS has had the responsibility             
 to do investigations, but only when the allegations involve client            
 abuse, neglect, or misappropriation of funds.  Over the past seven            
 years, the Board of Nursing has provided professional consultation            
 to DHSS and the senior ombudsman in investigation of complaints               
 related to CNAs and nursing care of senior citizens.  SB 152                  
 provides protection to the public from all CNAs.                              
                                                                               
  RON COWAN , Division of Medical Assistance, supported the comments           
 related to the need for this legislation.  Mr. Cowan reiterated Ms.           
 McGuill's comments regarding the history of CNAs and the process              
 that has led to this legislation.  EO 115 provided limited                    
 authority to the state and Occupational Licensing in the Board of             
 Nursing to develop certain standards.  Those standards were limited           
 to the federal government, the only statutory authority available             
 at that time, which was limited to nursing homes.  The CNA                    
 population has increased and are working in many other settings               
 besides nursing homes.  The problem has been that when a hearing              
 takes place, the department does not have statutory authority to              
 enact any disciplinary actions.                                               
                                                                               
 Mr. Cowan directed the committee to Section 9, lines 7-9 and                  
 Section 10, lines 18-19 of the bill when discussing the exemption             
 from APA.  The department will ensure protection of the due process           
 rights of individuals the department takes action against.  Mr.               
 Cowan explained that an APA hearing for a CNA utilizes the same               
 criteria used to revoke a physician's license or that of a higher             
 practitioner.  In the APA hearing, malpractice and the like are the           
 subject, while CNA hearings revolve around physical abuse.  The               
 burden of proof under the APA is of such stringent nature that it             
 is difficult to take action against someone that should not be a              
 CNA.  Mr. Cowan said that this exemption is not a breaker for the             
 department, but something more effective than APA for this type               
 hearing should be reviewed.  There is a difference between the                
 revocation of the certification of a CNA versus that of a                     
 physician.  Mr. Cowan supported SB 152.                                       
                                                                               
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  SENATOR GREEN  inquired as to the training of a nurse aide.   RON            
 COWAN  explained that a minimum of 75 hours is required of which              
 certain skills are learned and competency tests must be passed.               
 There is a didactic test requirement and continuing education is              
 also required.                                                                
                                                                               
  SENATOR GREEN  asked if certification is the only method available           
 to discipline these people.   RON COWAN  pointed out that even                
 certification cannot be used.  The only basis for discipline is               
 found in federal statutes which says that an individual cannot                
 continue to work in a nursing home if the individual was found to             
 have committed violations.  Therefore, that individual can go any             
 place else in the state and work as a CNA.  Unless the action falls           
 into criminal activity, there is no further recourse available.               
                                                                               
                                                                               
  CATHERINE REARDON , Director of the Division of Occupational                 
 Licensing in the DCED, supported SB 152.  Ms. Reardon informed the            
 committee that the department already certifies approximately 2,000           
 nurse aides and SB 152 allows the existing program to work better.            
 The bill establishes a two track system which is mandated by                  
 federal law.  The federal law required nursing homes to hire CNAs             
 and if a CNA was found to have committed abuse, neglect, or                   
 misappropriation of funds that CNA could no longer work in a                  
 nursing home.  Since that time, the nurse aide system has expanded.           
 Therefore, SB 152 would allow the discipline of nurses in other               
 settings and revocation of the nurse's certificate.  The federal              
 law only places names on a registry and the nurse retains the                 
 certificate.  Ms. Reardon pointed out that there are other types of           
 incompetencies that the department would like to investigate and              
 possibly take disciplinary corrective action.  SB 152 allows the              
 board to place a nurse aide on suspension, probation, or monitoring           
 for other offenses that do not fall under abuse, neglect or                   
 misappropriation of funds.  Ms. Reardon explained that by federal             
 law DHSS deals with findings of abuse or neglect in nursing homes             
 while the Board of Nursing will deal with allegations against nurse           
 aides in other settings and for reasons besides the three                     
 specified.  The second half of the bill makes the nurse aide system           
 conform to the requirements of other agencies.  SB 152 does not               
 mandate licensure nor certification.                                          
                                                                               
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  SENATOR WARD  inquired as to Ms. Reardon's impression of the lack of         
 process for the revocation of a license.   CATHERINE REARDON  pointed         
 out that all of the Board of Nursing and the Department of Commerce           
 activities fall under APA with one exception.  In the case that               
 DHSS has had a due process hearing and reports the results to the             
 Board of Nursing, a second hearing would be redundant.  The policy            
 issue is whether DHSS should fall under APA for its hearing.  In              
 further response, Ms. Reardon said that under APA one can appeal to           
 Superior Court.                                                               
                                                                               
  SENATOR WARD  noted the growth of nurses aides when asking if any            
 consideration had been given to the upcoming nurses aides to have             
 their own surety bonds and be self supporting.    Senator Ward noted          
 that the fiscal note indicates that someone will be hired.                    
  CATHERINE REARDON  explained that the cost of that employee is being         
 paid by the license fees of the nurse aide.  SB 152 references AS             
 08.01.065 which is the self-sufficiency mandate.   SENATOR WARD               
 asked if there will be enough fees collected to cover the cost of             
 grievances, proceedings and other projected costs.   CATHERINE                
 REARDON  expected fees will be between $100-$135 every two years.             
 The division will establish those fees based on cost.  The increase           
 from $30 to $100-$135 in the fees is due to the increased activity            
 provided.                                                                     
                                                                               
  SENATOR WARD  ascertained then that this system would allow the              
 public to believe that those holding licenses are reliable and can            
 be trusted.   CATHERINE REARDON  specified that this will assure the          
 public that the nurse aide completed the training program and that            
 no complaints against the nurse aide resulted in disciplinary                 
 action.  In further response to Senator Ward, Ms. Reardon said that           
 physicians are not mandated to carry insurance and SB 152 does not            
 include an insurance requirement either.  Ms. Reardon noted that              
 most health care professions do not have insurance requirements.              
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  remained convinced that the APA provisions need not           
 be changed and the APA provisions are actually incorporated                   
 earlier.   CATHERINE REARDON  explained that when the Department of           
 Commerce receives the complaint, the individual has already                   
 received due process from DHSS.                                               
                                                                               
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 In response to Senator Ward,  RON COWAN  said that any administrative         
 procedures or appeals process provided is under APA.  DHSS wanted             
 the opportunity to explore other systems incorporated by other                
 states with the CNA program which were found to more effective than           
 under APA in protecting due process.  There will be circumstances             
 in which DHSS will not take action against a CNA unless that CNA in           
 question happens to be working with an entity that has licenses or            
 certification under Medicaid.  Otherwise, the action would be taken           
 by the Board of Nursing and under APA per the board's request.  Mr.           
 Cowan said that the APA due process provisions will be followed               
 until the time another procedure is approved.                                 
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  expressed the need to hear from a CNA regarding the           
 CNA.   GAIL MCGUILL  said that in discussions with colleagues there           
 has been no concern expressed by CNAs or the employer.                        
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN WILKEN  said that question would be worked on as it passed          
 on to Senate Finance.                                                         
                                                                               
  SENATOR LEMAN  moved to report CSSB 152(L&C) out of committee with           
 individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.  Without            
 objection, it was so ordered.                                                 
                                                                               
 There being no further business before the committee, the meeting             
 was adjourned at 10:45 a.m.                                                   

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